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This morning with nothing better to do I decided to lisen to some early Dylan- some stuff from around the time of his very first album (1961) and in a strange kind of way I found it a little frustrating that the guy matured so early as a songwriter because before he developed this talent he was one mean kind of country blues singer. There's a version of Baby Please Don't Go on youtube which puts hairs on my teeth and there are plenty of other examples of his raw and passionate singing from around that period. It's pretty clear that he was heavily influenced by many of the black bluesmen of that time and strangely his guitar playing was far more inventive then than at any time in his career.

Listening to these impassioned performances only emphasizes his sad decline, in my view. Obviously everyone has a right to grow old but some seem to do it with more grace than others. I can only speculate on what gems Dylan may have produced had he not gone off at a tangent so early in his career and sure I can't have it both ways given the stature of his folkier output but it does reinforce my belief that here was a man often touched by genius in the way that no other in this business has been. Nope, I wont be buying his Xmas album.
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post Sep 3 2009, 01:18 PM  Post #1
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Jewish people have been up in arms about a well respected Jewish artist releasing a Christmas album.

To be fair Rudolfstein the Big Nosed Reindeer was a little insensitive.

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Jewish people have been up in arms about a well respected Jewish artist releasing a Christmas album.

To be fair Rudolfstein the Big Nosed Reindeer was a little insensitive.



Thats only because Donna and Blitzen were always at his arse rolleyes.gif




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QUOTE (Bluepeter15 @ Sep 3 2009, 02:18 PM) *
This morning with nothing better to do I decided to lisen to some early Dylan- some stuff from around the time of his very first album (1961) and in a strange kind of way I found it a little frustrating that the guy matured so early as a songwriter because before he developed this talent he was one mean kind of country blues singer. There's a version of Baby Please Don't Go on youtube which puts hairs on my teeth and there are plenty of other examples of his raw and passionate singing from around that period. It's pretty clear that he was heavily influenced by many of the black bluesmen of that time and strangely his guitar playing was far more inventive then than at any time in his career.

Listening to these impassioned performances only emphasizes his sad decline, in my view. Obviously everyone has a right to grow old but some seem to do it with more grace than others. I can only speculate on what gems Dylan may have produced had he not gone off at a tangent so early in his career and sure I can't have it both ways given the stature of his folkier output but it does reinforce my belief that here was a man often touched by genius in the way that no other in this business has been. Nope, I wont be buying his Xmas album.



Got quite a bit of Bob's stuff but a mate real big Dylan fan reckons he's got the first two Dylan albums think he said they were The Freewheeling Bob Dylan' and 'The Times are a Changing' was it one of them you was listening to ?,I know he's says they are worth a good few quid but I seem to think he said they were a from a bit later than 1961 but of course that could be wrong..?
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This morning with nothing better to do I decided to lisen to some early Dylan- some stuff from around the time of his very first album (1961) and in a strange kind of way I found it a little frustrating that the guy matured so early as a songwriter because before he developed this talent he was one mean kind of country blues singer. There's a version of Baby Please Don't Go on youtube which puts hairs on my teeth and there are plenty of other examples of his raw and passionate singing from around that period. It's pretty clear that he was heavily influenced by many of the black bluesmen of that time and strangely his guitar playing was far more inventive then than at any time in his career.

Listening to these impassioned performances only emphasizes his sad decline, in my view. Obviously everyone has a right to grow old but some seem to do it with more grace than others. I can only speculate on what gems Dylan may have produced had he not gone off at a tangent so early in his career and sure I can't have it both ways given the stature of his folkier output but it does reinforce my belief that here was a man often touched by genius in the way that no other in this business has been. Nope, I wont be buying his Xmas album.



Got quite a bit of Bob's stuff but a mate real big Dylan fan reckons he's got the first two Dylan albums think he said they were The Freewheeling Bob Dylan' and 'The Times are a Changing' was it one of them you was listening to ?,I know he's says they are worth a good few quid but I seem to think he said they were a from a bit later than 1961 but of course that could be wrong..?
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Sid, the first Dylan album was simply called Bob Dylan and it featured His Bobness singing old blues songs like See That My Grave Is Kept Clean, In My Time Of Dying and a blistering version of House Of The Rising Sun amongst others. There were only two of his own compositions on it namely Song To Woody and Talking New York Blues; Freewheelin followed this album and marked a startling change of direction with almost all of the material being written by Dylan. Times They Are A Changing followed Freewheelin by which time Dylan had established his reputation amongst the folk scene- altough he was never a folk purist purist it seemed easier to some to regard him as such. If you want to hear what he sounded like in '61 then google Baby Please Don't Go/ Bob Dylan on youtube; by doing so you will gain access to just all of the songs of that period. His voice, even then, certainly wasn't pretty but it carried a power that might surprise some. Personally I think Dylan was on the threshold of becoming the best white singer of the last century but we'll never know given the abrupt change of direction which followed soon after.
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QUOTE (Bluepeter15 @ Sep 4 2009, 08:55 AM) *
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QUOTE (Bluepeter15 @ Sep 3 2009, 02:18 PM) *
This morning with nothing better to do I decided to lisen to some early Dylan- some stuff from around the time of his very first album (1961) and in a strange kind of way I found it a little frustrating that the guy matured so early as a songwriter because before he developed this talent he was one mean kind of country blues singer. There's a version of Baby Please Don't Go on youtube which puts hairs on my teeth and there are plenty of other examples of his raw and passionate singing from around that period. It's pretty clear that he was heavily influenced by many of the black bluesmen of that time and strangely his guitar playing was far more inventive then than at any time in his career.

Listening to these impassioned performances only emphasizes his sad decline, in my view. Obviously everyone has a right to grow old but some seem to do it with more grace than others. I can only speculate on what gems Dylan may have produced had he not gone off at a tangent so early in his career and sure I can't have it both ways given the stature of his folkier output but it does reinforce my belief that here was a man often touched by genius in the way that no other in this business has been. Nope, I wont be buying his Xmas album.



Got quite a bit of Bob's stuff but a mate real big Dylan fan reckons he's got the first two Dylan albums think he said they were The Freewheeling Bob Dylan' and 'The Times are a Changing' was it one of them you was listening to ?,I know he's says they are worth a good few quid but I seem to think he said they were a from a bit later than 1961 but of course that could be wrong..?
K.R.O.


Sid, the first Dylan album was simply called Bob Dylan and it featured His Bobness singing old blues songs like See That My Grave Is Kept Clean, In My Time Of Dying and a blistering version of House Of The Rising Sun amongst others. There were only two of his own compositions on it namely Song To Woody and Talking New York Blues; Freewheelin followed this album and marked a startling change of direction with almost all of the material being written by Dylan. Times They Are A Changing followed Freewheelin by which time Dylan had established his reputation amongst the folk scene- altough he was never a folk purist purist it seemed easier to some to regard him as such. If you want to hear what he sounded like in '61 then google Baby Please Don't Go/ Bob Dylan on youtube; by doing so you will gain access to just all of the songs of that period. His voice, even then, certainly wasn't pretty but it carried a power that might surprise some. Personally I think Dylan was on the threshold of becoming the best white singer of the last century but we'll never know given the abrupt change of direction which followed soon after.



Interesting....cheers for that ..!
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Freewheelin' is still my all-time fave of Bob's work. Can't say I've heard his self-titled dayboo but if bloopy says it's very good thern I'll have an investigational browse as to it's content.
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QUOTE (Panja @ Sep 4 2009, 12:59 PM) *
Freewheelin' is still my all-time fave of Bob's work. Can't say I've heard his self-titled dayboo but if bloopy says it's very good thern I'll have an investigational browse as to it's content.


I know where you can get your hands on a digital copy. Along with nearly everything else He's sung, croaked, belched or farted on since then.

And as we're naming favourites - Time Out Of Mind is mine. He was pretty well back to being that Blues singer by then. All be it with an Electric Band - the Judas!




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